Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:37:40 -1000 From: rolf@login.dknet.dk (Rolf V. Oestergaard) Message-Id: Organization: DKnet / EUnet Denmark - Login Tjenesten Subject: Kiteski in seawater Hi, Does any of You have experience with the KITESKI system used in sea-water for more than a single season? What parts does suffer? I understand the cable for the brake on the control bar is not stainless steel or teflon coated, and might be a problem? Has this been the case for You? See You on FAN0, ______________ Rolf V. Oestergaard, Copenhagen, Denmark \ /\ / email: rolf@login.dknet.dk \/ \/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 20:24:37 -1000 From: johnsen@eskimo.com (Brian Johnsen) Message-Id: Organization: Tethered Airfoil R&D Pty. Ltd.(C)(R)(TM) CD CASS Subject: Re: Kiteski in seawater In article , Rolf V. Oestergaard wrote: >Does any of You have experience with the KITESKI system used in >sea-water for more than a single season? What parts does suffer? > >I understand the cable for the brake on the control bar is not >stainless steel or teflon coated, and might be a problem? Has this >been the case for You? The Kiteski mechanical system is made of bicycle parts. The disk brake system has become very popular on newer tandem bicycles and any local bike shop that sells and services tandems should be able to get you replacement parts fairly easily. Stainless steel is not a very good material for bending and tensile strength. The cables themselves are very inexpensive, but as long as you use a fairly thick grease on them before installation they should last a good while. Just rinse the whole thing with fresh water after a dip in the sea. Bicyles are fairly durable even in damp conditions. Hope I was able to help you out. Say hi to Sus ;) -- In Self Rightious Rage, Kite Flyer Mugs Eighty-Seven, Self -- Brian Johnsen johnsen@eskimo.com Seattle, Washington USA = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 07:57:13 -1000 From: rolf@login.dknet.dk (Rolf V. Oestergaard) Message-Id: <5bb0wMbaABGQ088yn@login.dknet.dk> Organization: DKnet / EUnet Denmark - Login Tjenesten Subject: Re: Kiteski in seawater johnsen@eskimo.com (Brian Johnsen) wrote: > The Kiteski mechanical system is made of bicycle parts. The disk >brake system has become very popular on newer tandem bicycles and any >local bike shop that sells and services tandems should be able to get >you replacement parts fairly easily. Stainless steel is not a very >good material for bending and tensile strength. The cables themselves >are very inexpensive, but as long as you use a fairly thick grease on them >before installation they should last a good while. Just rinse the >whole thing with fresh water after a dip in the sea. Bicyles are >fairly durable even in damp conditions. Thanks for Your response. I guess the cable could be changed whenever it gets too bad, but I look for someone with _real_ experience with this stuff in sea-water. I know how different things behave, when exposed to salty sea-water for periods of time. This is no problem for those sailing on the Gorge, but I would be sailing in sea-water only... > Say hi to Sus ;) Will do, thanks. BTW: I just received the "1995 Long Beach Kite Video" in PAL - on the cover it says: "Largest & best kite fly in the World!!!" I suppose that You would consider that for one of Your .sig lines - about as true as any I have seen yet.... (best could be argued, but largest?????????). See You, ______________ Rolf V. Oestergaard, Copenhagen, Denmark \ /\ / email: rolf@login.dknet.dk \/ \/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 21:41:21 -1000 From: daveculp@bdt.com (Dave Culp) Message-Id: Organization: Beckemeyer Development, Oakland CA Subject: Re: Kiteski in seawater In article <5bb0wMbaABGQ088yn@login.dknet.dk>, rolf@login.dknet.dk (Rolf V. Oestergaard) wrote: > Thanks for Your response. I guess the cable could be changed whenever > it gets too bad, but I look for someone with _real_ experience with > this stuff in sea-water. I know how different things behave, when > exposed to salty sea-water for periods of time. This is no problem for > those sailing on the Gorge, but I would be sailing in sea-water > only... Cory (Roeseler, of Kiteski, not Corey Jensen) demos Kiteskis all the time in sea water. He's also *totally* honest. Give him a call and ask him. 1-800-KITESKI. G'luck. -- ################################################################### Dave Culp Speedsailing | e-mail to: daveculp@bdt.com 312 Flaming Oak Drive | Pleasant Hill, CA 94596 | http://www.bdt.com:80/home/daveculp/speedsail.html #################################################################### = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 08:35:20 -1000 From: rolf@login.dknet.dk (Rolf V. Oestergaard) Message-Id: Organization: DKnet / EUnet Denmark - Login Tjenesten Subject: Re: Kiteski in seawater daveculp@bdt.com (Dave Culp) wrote: >Cory (Roeseler, of Kiteski, not Corey Jensen) demos Kiteskis all the time >in sea water. He's also *totally* honest. Give him a call and ask him. >1-800-KITESKI. G'luck. Thanks for Your reply. I talked about the issue with Corey's co-worker Randy, when he teached me to kiteski this summer. So I got a fairly good idea about what Corey would say... That's exactly why I want a second oppinion on the cable... What I would like to get, is some other peoples experience with the kiteski system in sea-water. Unfortunately, it seems that no kiteskiers monitor r.k and/or are willing to drop me a line about theri experience. It seem that the kiteski system is not that widely used (by us computer-nerd types anyway). I tried to set up a global usenet search, that triggers everytime kiteski is mentioned on usenet - result: almost never, and only on r.k, not on the waterski groups... BTW: 1-800 numbers are valid in the US only! You know, there are other places in the world.... like Europe.... You know, where FAN0 is located... Regards, ______________ Rolf V. Oestergaard, Copenhagen, Denmark \ /\ / email: rolf@login.dknet.dk \/ \/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:34:56 -1000 From: andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie) Message-Id: Organization: /usr/lib/news/organisation Subject: Re: Kiteski in seawater rolf@login.dknet.dk (Rolf V. Oestergaard) writes: >I tried to set up a global usenet search, that triggers >everytime kiteski is mentioned on usenet - result: almost never, and >only on r.k, not on the waterski groups... Did you try the FTP archive in Hawaii? Try "mget *kiteski*" in the potpouri directory. You should get 3 or 4 hits. Doing this should uncover the following address: kiteskiing@aol.com (KITESKIING) Which may or may not be useful. Real soon now, I'll tell you to use the full text index of the rec.kites archive... Andrew -- http://www.kfs.org/kites is having some reliability problems. We will shortly be upgrading CPU, disk and OS to address this. Don't post about splitting rec.kites. Wait for the RFD and CFV. Fancy stitches are for girls. Real men use 5mm straight stitch only. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 07:49:16 -1000 From: samef@shout.net (Sam Francis) Message-Id: <4bek6a$ie3@treflan.shout.net> Organization: Shouting Ground Technologies Subject: Re: Kiteski in seawater rolf@login.dknet.dk (Rolf V. Oestergaard) wrote: >What I would like to get, is some other peoples experience with the >kiteski system in sea-water. >Unfortunately, it seems that no kiteskiers monitor r.k and/or are >willing to drop me a line about theri experience. It seem that the >kiteski system is not that widely used (by us computer-nerd types >anyway). I tried to set up a global usenet search, that triggers >everytime kiteski is mentioned on usenet - result: almost never, and >only on r.k, not on the waterski groups... Rolf, Ask jetskiers about cable care and feeding. Wouldn't they know? Also I think you can get stainless cables made to size. Look in the back of a motorcycle magazine (customized bikes). Sam = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =